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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Horizontal spinners
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 10:36:46 pm »
Horizontal spinners


Horizontal spinners are horizontally spinning weapons (including both bars and discs). The first bot to use one was GyroWave, the multi-time champion. Other famous bots to use them include Phoenix and Circle of Death. Full-body spinners are also sometimes referred to as horizontal spinners.

Advantages
  • This type of weapon can do a lot of damage.
  • Horizontal spinners can flip other bots, especially those equipped with hammers or axes, if they hit the side of the enemy's weapon.
  • Horizontal spinners can usually get much larger than verticals.
  • Horizontals usually have a large advantage over grapplers/lifters/jaws.
  • Big horizontals can send opponents sliding or flying after a hit, gaining Control points.

Disadvantages
  • Like other spinners, they can be fussy and fragile, sometimes not working correctly or at all.
  • Horizontal spinners can be disabled by hits from powerful hammers. This has been less of a problem more recently.
  • If a bot armed with a horizontal spinner gets a big hit, it may unbalance or even flip itself. Most bots are heavy enough that this probably won't happen to them, but lightweights and featherweights are vulnerable—even middleweight Fallen Windmill lost multiple matches by flipping over.
  • Bots with overhead horizontal spinners are difficult to push without getting hit by the blades.
  • Horizontals are generally at a disadvantage against big verts in a weapon-to-weapon hit, as if their bar gets hit hard, they are in danger of flipping, whereas verts are generally not. This can be fixed by rounding off the trailing edge of the weapon, like the real bot Bloodsport does.
  • Horizontals normally do very poorly against wedges, both because wedges deflect the energy well and because they are braced against the ground, redirecting energy back into the spinner.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Vertical spinners
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 10:31:12 pm »
Vertical spinners


Vertical spinners are vertically spinning weapons (including both bars and discs). Successful bots that have used them include Left Hook, Left Hook Jr, Skeleton, and Undertaker.

Advantages
  • This type of weapon can do a lot of damage with a good hit.
  • If they get the right hit, powerful vertical spinners can knock lighter opponents into the air (as in Left Hook Jr.'s second match with Chopper) or even KO them by flipping them (as in Left Hook's first match with Bite Force II and Undertaker's second match with Skeleton).
  • Verts are easy to add wedges to, making them a great counter to horizonals.
  • Newton's Laws mean that the recoil of a vertical spinner pushes the bot downward, and that force can then be transmitted back up during the hit, making verts more energy-efficient than horizontals, which recoil sideways and thus waste more energy.
Disadvantages
  • Like other spinners, verts can be fussy and fragile sometimes.
  • Vertical spinners are hard to make, more so than horizontals.
  • Verts generally do poorly in weapon-to-weapon hits with full body spinners (such as in Bite Force II's matches with Decimator IV).
  • Because of how most bots are built, verts often have difficulty getting solid hits.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Spinning drums
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 08:20:11 pm »
Spinning drums


Spinning drums are weapons that consist of a cylinder which is spun along its axis by gears or rubber bands. They have been used by several bots: Minotaur, Minotaur II, and Death Rattle.

Advantages
  • With a good hit, some drums can toss enemy bots upward.
  • Drums can serve as shields, as they are usually placed in front of the bot.
  • Against wedgeless hammer bots, drums can cause the enemy to roll over you, thus missing with their hammer and potentially damaging themselves, as demonstrated in Minotaur II's first two matches against BETA.
Disadvantages
  • Drums are not very destructive. They usually do not do much damage.
  • These weapons are sometimes fragile, and so are weak against direct hits. Both types of drum are easily disabled.
  • Most spinning drums have very short attack range.
  • A drum can cause a bot to flip against a wedge if it rolls up it.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Minotaur II
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 06:59:30 pm »
Minotaur II

Minotaur II was a Lego BattleBot that competed in May-June 2021. It was armed with a drum on the front that spun at around 500-600 rpm.

Stats
Length: 5.75 inches
Weight: 184 grams
Class: Middleweight
Ranking (Class): 1st
Ranking (overall): 2nd
Weapons (present): Spinning drum
Weapons: (overall): Spinning drum
Minibots: None
Titles: 1 Dutch's bots overall championship
Status: Retired, scrapped

Minotaur, the real BattleBot Minotaur and Minotaur II are based on.

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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Hammers/axes
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 06:34:45 pm »
Hammers/axes


Hammers are a relatively common weapon, though axes are rarer. They rely on kinetic energy to break through the top of a bot. Famous bots to use hammers/axes are Headache and Migraine in the original tournaments, and BETA, Tension, Stab, Smash, and Squash in the newer ones.

Types
Advantages
  • Hammers can create massive internal damage, or even knock wheels off the bottom of another bot.
  • The stress from a hammer blow can damage the spots where the wheels connect to the enemy bot.
  • Narrow-tipped hammers and axes can land sniping hits on weapon gears or axles. The real BattleBot Chomp did this against Bite Force.
  • Against horizontal spinners, hammers originally tended to do well because their weapon is often more durable and will be more likely to survive a weapon-to-weapon hit, such as in Tension and Tension II's matches with GyroWave. Since then, however, advances in spinner tech have made this far less likely.
  • Hammers are very impressive to see in action, and so may sway a judge's decision.
Disadvantages
  • Hammers are a rather inefficient manner of transferring energy (imagine trying to take bricks apart by pushing them together), so they have to be very powerful to do much.
  • Hammers often damage the bot they are mounted on. Dutch has created feather- and lightweight hammerbots that can KO themselves with one shot.
  • Hammers do poorly against full body spinners because if they miss, the hammer can be actually chopped off, like this. This can also happen against horizontal spinners.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Rubber-band hammers
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 02:35:48 pm »
Rubber-band hammers

Rubber-band hammers, or Rubber-band-powered hammers, are hammers (or sometimes axes) powered by a rubber band. They can be much more powerful than gravity hammers, with some being able to hit with a force over 50 grams. BETA was the first bot to use one successfully.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / BETA
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 02:24:53 pm »
BETA

BETA (pronounced bee-ta) was a bot built by Dutch. It was armed with an immensely powerful rubber-band hammer capable of flattening some bots. BETA was named after and based on the actual BattleBot Beta. BETA was a highly successful bot, winning the championship once against Minotaur II.

Stats
Length: N/A
Weight: N/A
Class: Heavyweight
Ranking (Class): 2nd
Ranking (overall): 2nd
Weapons (present): Hammer
Weapons: (overall): Hammer
Minibots: None
Status: Retired and scrapped

History
BETA vs Minotaur II
BETA's first match ever was against the new bot Minotaur II. The fight began with the two fighters slamming into each other. But Minotaur's drum served as a "wheel" for BETA to roll over. The momentum of BETA's hammer carried it over Minotaur and down the other side. BETA's hammer hit empty air, causing it to rip nearly all the way off. BETA forfeited and Minotaur won the match.

BETA vs Minotaur II
Dutch staged a rematch between the two rivals. This match went much like the first one, except that BETA's hammer came all the way out. It then became a ramming match which Minotaur finally won.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Spinning bars
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 02:16:55 pm »
Spinning bars


Spinning bars are a type of weapon. They consist of a bar, usually made of Lego plates, spun on an axle by gears or rubber bands. The first and most famous bot armed with this type of weapon was GyroWave. They can be vertical or horizontal.

Advantages
  • Spinning bars almost always have superior bite compared to discs. This means they often do more damage, even if they store less kinetic energy.
  • If they get the right hit, powerful spinning bars can knock lighter opponents into the air.
  • Bar spinners are generally at an advantage when they clash with disk and saw spinners, as bar spinners usually have much more reach and less central mass in the gaps between the teeth, meaning that disc spinners are more likely to take damage to their discs from bar spinners than the other way around.
Disadvantages
  • Like other spinners, spinning bars are complicated, making them sometimes unreliable.
  • If a bar loses a tooth, it can become unbalanced and start to "Mauler dance", which may make the bot harder to control, lose its low ground clearance, or even flip over.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / Gravity-powered hammers
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 02:11:56 pm »
Gravity-powered hammers

Gravity-powered hammers are hammers powered by the force of impact along with gravity. They are free-swinging. Gravity-powered hammers are usually incapable of causing serious damage to anything above the middleweight class.
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Lego BattleBots Wiki / GyroWave
« Last post by Dutch on June 22, 2021, 02:10:11 pm »
GyroWave


GyroWave was a bot built by Dutch in 2021, and considered to the greatest BattleBot built since the active weapon requirement was introduced. It was armed with a horizontal spinning bar capable of about 400 rpms. It was designed to be based on Icewave from official BattleBots.
     GyroWave had a well-known rivalry with Left Hook Jr.

Stats
Length: 8.75 inches
Weight: 318 grams (formerly 304, then 222)
Class: Heavyweight (formerly heavyweight, then middleweight)
Ranking (Class): 2nd
Ranking (overall): 3rd
Fighting average: 0.729 (35 wins out of 48 fights)
Weapons: Spinning bar, wedge
Max weapon tip speed: 9.469 mph
Max weapon rpms: 400
Max weapon KE: 1.2 J with original thin bar; 4.8 J with heaviest bar
Max weapon bite: 31.9 mm
Minibots: None
Titles: 3 Dutch's bots overall championships, 5 Patterson-Seibert championships, 1 Four-Team championship (shared with Left Hook Jr.)
Status: Retired and scrapped

History
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GyroWave vs Minotaur II
GyroWave's first fight was against Minotaur II, the only other bot at the time. Its weapon stopped but its armor was able to take the hits from Minotaur's drum. It finally won, making it the champion.

GyroWave vs Bite Force I
GyroWave's next fight was against the experimental vertical spinner Bite Force I. GyroWave disabled the vert's weapon and rammed the front in, winning by KO.

GyroWave vs Stallion
GyroWave's next fight was against the new bot Stallion. The fight began as Stallion attempted to get under Gyro and flip it, but failed. Gyro was able to smash Stallion with its armor.

GyroWave vs Stallion
Dutch repaired and updated Stallion. This time, it managed to get under Gyro, but the heavyweight was too heavy to flip and the arm snapped off. Gyro won by KO after a few brutal hits.

GyroWave vs Beta Returns
GyroWave lost its weapon but won by KO.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 1.0
GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave won this fight after losing its weapon. They fought again to the same result.

GyroWave vs Tension
GyroWave flipped Tension over with the first weapon-to weapon hit. However, as Dutch was cleaning up, he noticed that GyroWave's back wheels were knocked off. Thus it was a double KO.

GyroWave vs Tension (rematch)
This time, GyroWave's weapon broke in the weapon-to-weapon clash, but so did Tension's. GyroWave kept ramming until it reduced Tension to a frame and four wheels. The next hit flipped Tension and took off two wheels. GyroWave won by KO.

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GyroWave vs Minotaur II
GyroWave took some damage to its front, so Dutch decided to back into Minotaur, which cost him the fight as Minotaur knocked off his back wheels and won by KO.

GyroWave vs Minotaur II
This time, GyroWave won by KO.

GyroWave vs Bite Force II
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GyroWave later fought Bite Force II. The first hit didn't do much; both weapons were still working. However, GyroWave's was damaged, with the gears knocked out of place a bit. The second hit disabled the king's weapon. The next one, though went differently as GyroWave rammed into Bite Force's front and knocked a few pieces off, disabling the spinner. The fourth broke off both ends of the bar. The fifth broke off the entire spinner section. The sixth smashed off one upper wheel guard, but also broke off GyroWave's spinner. The seventh broke the other guard. The eight didn't do much except for GyroWave's broken spinner falling off. Hit number nine damaged Bite Force's axle system. The final blow knocked one more piece off Bite Force's underside. GyroWave was ruled the winner.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 2.0
GyroWave vs Tension II
GyroWave flipped Tension II, won the fight by KO and claimed the title.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 3.0
GyroWave vs Left Hook
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This match started very even, but then GyroWave's famous weapon stopped. Then they collided again. Both backed away and GyroWave's front half came entirely off. Dutch stubbornly attacked again, as all the champ's wheels were still on. This time, it flipped and therefore lost by KO. Left Hook became Lego BattleBots champion.
     Dutch rebuilt GyroWave the next day, making it a middleweight.
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GyroWave vs Box O' Destruction
Next GyroWave faced the full-body spinner Box O' Destruction. The first hit did nothing. The second hit was a full-on collision between the weapons. GyroWave's gears and bracings withstood the hit, but the blades came off. After several more hits, GyroWave rammed Box O' Destruction hard enough to knock part of the top off. Box O' Destruction started to "Mauler dance" and GyroWave won by KO.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 4.0
GyroWave vs Box O' Destruction
This fight went much like last time. GyroWave won by KO and advanced to the finals, where it got a chance to reclaim its title from Left Hook.

GyroWave vs Left Hook
The first collision broke off GyroWave's wedge and part of the bottom. But the second hit broke Left Hook's wedge off, splitting it in half. GyroWave won by KO in two hits and reclaimed its title.

GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave won this fight by KO after losing its weapon.

Four-Team Tournament 1.0
GyroWave vs Left Hook Jr.
The first hit broke off GyroWave's blades, but Left Hook Jr. took damage as well with a chunk taken off the front. GyroWave continued to keep the advantage, ramming pieces of Left Hook Jr.'s armor off. Suddenly Left Hook Jr. knocked GyroWave to the rug. Dutch stopped the fight and asked David, Deacon and Nathaniel if that counted as a knockout if he couldn't get off. They said yes, and David began the countdown as Dutch frantically tried to get GyroWave off the rug by turning the spinner system. However, he ended up getting it high-centered, and was counted out. Left Hook Jr. won by KO. However, Dutch requested a rematch in a different fighting area.

GyroWave vs Left Hook Jr.
This fight went down much like the first, but this time GyroWave shattered the front of Left Hook Jr., which was counted out. GyroWave won by KO.

GyroWave vs Spinner
Next up for the champ was an exhibition match with the brand-new bot Spinner. Neither could damage the other and GyroWave won by judges' decision.

Dutch's Bots Tournament #6
GyroWave vs Executioner
Both bots lost their weapons before Executioner's wedge fell off and got it high-centered. GyroWave won by KO.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 5.0
GyroWave vs Left Hook Jr.

Footage from a similar BattleBots fight, Icewave vs Yeti.
Ethan had completely redesigned Left Hook Jr. as a wedge with a smaller weapon and the two met in the finals of the event.
     The first few hits did little, as the bots could barely strike each other with their primary weapons. Then Dutch decided to lift up the front of his bot as he pushed it in an attempt to ram Left Hook Jr.'s spinner. The next hit launched GyroWave into the air, and as it landed on Ethan's bot its blades broke off. Now weaponless, Dutch frantically tried to make a comeback. Finally, he was able to take off one of Left Hook's wheels. The fight was paused as the referee (David) examined the bot to see if its wheels were touching the ground. Finally it was decided that Left Hook was still in the fight. After a few more hits, Ethan tapped out as the baseplate of his bot was cracking. GyroWave won by KO again.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 6.0
GyroWave vs Unnamed
GyroWave flipped Unnamed over and smashed it out of the arena, winning by KO.

GyroWave vs Smash
GyroWave disabled Smash's hammer, but lost its own weapon as well. David eventually tapped out and GyroWave won by technical KO. Next up for the champ was Ethan's new hammerbot, Stab.

GyroWave vs Stab
GyroWave's first hit on Stab resulted in a devastating weapon-to-weapon hit. Stab lost pieces of its front wedge, but GyroWave's spinner broke. Finally the fight went to JD and Stab won in a big upset.

All-Team Tournament 2.0
GyroWave vs Bite
First up for Dutch and GyroWave was Nathaniel and his new full-body spinner, Bite. The first hit broke off both ends of GyroWave's bar, but Bite got rammed out of the BattleBox. Bite was counted out and GyroWave won yet another fight by KO. Then it got a chance for revenge against its rival Stab.

GyroWave vs Stab
GyroWave lost its weapon again, but Stab became high-centered somehow and was counted out. GyroWave won in another quick KO.

GyroWave vs Left Hook Jr.
This fight was delayed for a few minutes, as Dutch had to repair the battle damage from Stab. Even so, GyroWave's gearbox was not working well in this fight, so the bar spinner wasn't at full torque or speed.
     GyroWave lost both ends of its bar in the first hit, but damaged Left Hook Jr.'s wedge. The fight continued with no damage until Left Hook Jr. lost a wheel. The fight went the distance and the judges awarded Left Hook Jr. the victory in a 2-1 split decision.
     This fight was controversial, with Dutch arguing that GyroWave deserved the win. However, the decision stood.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 7.0
GyroWave vs Smash
Dutch added a "cow catcher" on the front of GyroWave for this fight, though it was knocked off quickly.
     Both bots took a lot of damage early on from the hits. Part of GyroWave's bar came off and unbalanced the weapon, allowing Smash to get under GyroWave. However, GyroWave finally won by KO.

GyroWave vs Unnamed
Ethan had upgraded Unnamed for the first time, making it stronger and heavier. The fight started well for GyroWave as it knocked Unnamed a long way with each hit. Then Unnamed tore off the front wedge, and damaged the weapon housing. Finally the fight went to the judge (David) and after long discussion it was decided to give the bots two more hits. GyroWave scored more Control points, but took a lot of damage. It was still too close to call, so they attacked one more time. Unnamed did more damage, ripping plates off GyroWave's underside. David ruled in favor of Unnamed and GyroWave lost in an utterly shocking upset. However, the drivers agreed to a rematch.

GyroWave vs Unnamed
This fight went much like the first, but Ethan tapped out as one of the impactor pieces on Unnamed was bending. GyroWave won by technical KO and advanced to fight Son of Razor.

GyroWave vs Son of Razor
For this fight, Dutch had created an attachment that looked like a large fist on a pole, placed on the front. It was designed to break Son of Razor's blades off. The first hit took the attachment off. GyroWave took heavy damage, but finally won by KO and advanced to the next round, where it faced Stab yet again.

GyroWave vs Stab
GyroWave's spinner withstood the weapon-to-weapon collisions quite well, but was disabled eventually. GyroWave's wedge proved to be weaker than Stab's, and it came off, taking three underside plates with it. Finally, Dutch chose to back into Stab, as his front armor was devastated. This proved fatal, as the rear wheels were knocked off, and GyroWave was counted out and eliminated from the tournament.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 8.0
GyroWave vs Phoenix
GyroWave, due to placing high in the previous tournament, received a bye and skipped the first round. Its first opponent was Ethan's new horizontal spinner Phoenix, which had previously defeated Unnamed. Both bots' wedges were long enough that their weapons could not touch. Dutch got one weapon hit on Phoenix by turning and thus bypassing the wedges. The fight went the distance and Phoenix won by JD, putting it in the next round and GyroWave in the losers' bracket, where it faced Dutch's new shell spinner Atticus.

GyroWave vs Atticus
David drove Atticus for this fight. The former Best Driver Award winner spun Atticus up and drove right at GyroWave. The resulting blow sent Atticus out of the arena, where it was counted out. GyroWave had won by KO in one hit and advanced to the next round, where it faced Son of Razor.

GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave won by KO when SOR destroyed itself and was no longer capable of controlled movement. GW advanced to the next round to fight Phoenix again.

GyroWave vs Phoenix
Dutch had taken a lot of damage against SOR and so he had to rebuild his front wedge. He made it shorter this time so he could land bigger hits.
     This time, GyroWave and Phoenix hit weapons again and again, which only reversed the spin of Phoenix's spinner. GyroWave won by JD in the end and advanced to fight the winners' bracket finalist, its rival Stab.

GyroWave vs Stab
GyroWave was able to damage Stab's hammer despite losing its own weapon. Ethan used the hammer shaft as a spike, but it broke off. Suddenly Stab flipped after a big impact and was counted out, giving GW the win and championship.

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GyroWave vs Unnamed
This fight was a grudge match that did not count toward either bot's record. GyroWave was KOed immediately as it took its own wheels off by getting them stuck on the edge of the arena. Unnamed won by KO in one hit. Dutch requested a rematch.

GyroWave vs Unnamed
GyroWave lost by JD, as its armor got ripped apart by Unnamed, and Dutch could not ram Unnamed off the arena, partially due to David's skilled driving.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 9.0
GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave received a bye and fought Son of Razor in the first round.
     GyroWave won by KO when SOR broke in half from its own power. GyroWave advanced to the third round to face Phoenix again.

GyroWave vs Phoenix
GyroWave took very heavy damage and lost the fight, going into the loser's bracket to face David's new featherweight crusher, I Don't Know.

GyroWave vs I Don't Know

The first hit from GyroWave's bar sent I Don't Know flying about two feet. However, it was, amazingly, unharmed. GyroWave hit it again and this time the tiny bot broke in half. GyroWave won an easy KO and advanced to fight Son of Razor again.

GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave won by KO in the same fashion as last time. GyroWave advanced the finals to fight Phoenix.

GyroWave vs Phoenix
This fight was long and brutal, with both bots taking loads of damage. Ethan eventually tapped out and GyroWave won. However, Son of Razor was given a wildcard, so GyroWave had to fight it one more time.

GyroWave vs Son of Razor
GyroWave's armor held up again. Son of Razor did better this time, but then broke apart. However, SOR's bottom section separated and David showed controlled movement. The fight went to JD after ten hits and GyroWave won the title.

Patterson-Seibert Tournament 10.0
GyroWave vs Phoenix
GyroWave had again received a bye and its first match was against Phoenix yet again. Phoenix had defeated Lift Off! in the first round.
     GyroWave did okay at first until it got knocked onto the side wall of the arena. Dutch frantically tried to drive back in, but his rear wheels got stuck and he was counted out. GyroWave moved to the loser's bracket, where it was set to fight Dutch's other bot Tearnado.

GyroWave vs Tearnado
Dutch was not able to repair Tearnado from its previous match against Left Hook Jr, so Tearnado had to forfeit. GyroWave moved on to fight its rival Unnamed.

GyroWave vs Unnamed
David drove Unnamed. Dutch's plan for this fight was to use his front wedge to push the other bot out of the box. The first hit did little. In the next hit, Dutch rammed very hard, knocking Unnamed out of the arena, despite losing its wedge. David almost got the spinner back in, but was counted out and GyroWave won by KO and advanced to face Phoenix again.

GyroWave vs Phoenix
Phoenix won by KO and GyroWave was eliminated from the tournament for the final time.


Trivia
  • GyroWave was the most successful horizontal spinner of all time.
  • GyroWave only lost against wedgeless bots in four official matches (two of these were against the top spinner Unnamed).
  • GyroWave beat wedges on fourteen occasions, and beat full wedges three times.
  • With a no-KO'd streak of 14, GyroWave had the second-longest streak ever of not being KO'd (after Skeleton at 18).
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